Preface: The information below will cover testing the X and Y endstops to troubleshoot X or Y axis motion issues on your Thunder Laser Nova Series machine. This article includes where to source replacement endstops and additional resources are linked to extend the troubleshooting steps. This is a very long article with lots of visuals, so take your time to read and understand it completely. The endstops are 2 of the most critical sensors on the machine.
X Axis Endstop Not Making In Time - Clunk
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Y Axis Endstop Not Making in Time - Clunk
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Notice the Clunk and belt flopping when the laser head goes all the way left. Then only the Y axis moves to its origin position because the X driver is faulted.
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Notice the clunk and belt popping when the gantry reaches all the way to the back. Then only the X axis moves to its origin position because the Y driver is faulted.
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X Axis Not Releasing/Stuck (Very Slow Walk to the Right)
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Y Axis Not Releasing (Slow Walk to the Front)
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Notice that the X axis very slowly moves to the right. Then the X axis slows down even further and moves to the right some more. Then the homing is forced done and the machine returns to an improper origin position that does not match the position readout on the control screen. The X driver is not faulted in this video but if the travel to origin has the X axis over travels beyond the limits to the right, the driver will fault.
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Notice that the Y axis very slowly moves to the front. Then the Y axis slows down even further and moves to the front some more. Then the homing is forced done and the machine returns to an improper origin position that does not match the position readout on the control screen. The Y driver is not faulted in this video but if the travel to origin has the Y axis over travels beyond the limits to the front, the driver will fault.
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-Loss of Axis Control - Driver has 7 Red Flashes-X or Y Position values on Laser Screen after Homing is incorrect. Compare the physical position of the head against what the screen says the position is and compare.
Screen Readout Laser Head Position X at position 500.44 and Y at Position 500.13 on the screen X and Y for the laser Head are clearly not at 500.44 and 500.13-Laser Head does not return to the correct User Origin after Homing for both Axes. For example, the X Axis Head moves but the Y Axis gantry stays put at the back of the machine.
Mechanical
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Legacy Optical
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Legacy Mechanical
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It is important to know which Endstop controls which motor direction in order to be able to troubleshoot efficiently.
X-Axis: Left to RightY Axis: Back to Front
X-Axis
The X-Axis endstop is on the left side of the gantry and moves up and down on the gantry.
LocationClose Up On larger machines it is beneficial to move the gantry bar closer to the front of the machine for access to the X-Axis EndstopY-Axis
The Y-Axis is on the right hand side of the gantry track support. You will need to open up the door on the right hand side of the machine which is bolted shut from the inside.
Location Close Up You will have to open the blue door (Bolted Shut) to access the Y axis endstop *on Legacy machines, the Y endstop was located on the left hand side gantry track support and may have been an optical sensor
The wiring on the endstop should connect to the COM and NO pins. The endstop will light up the corresponding LED on the RUIDA controller when pressed.
Correct Wiring - Current Endstop Correct Wiring -Legacy Endstop
Incorrect Wiring Wire Disconnected Wiring is on the C and NC terminals when it should be on the N and NO terminals. If a wire was wrong or not landed, install it back properly and then power the machine back up to initiate a homing routing.
The endstop Lever should be in good working condition. Please verify the state of the lever arm.
Normal Endstop Missing/Broken Off No Springiness\Over Extended If the lever is missing, broken or has lost its springiness, then you should replace the endstop
In general, the controller is on the right hand side of the machine.
Nova Series Internal Control Panel (Nova 24 shown, each size machine will vary but the general locations are the same)
X-Axis LimitX- LED1 Y-Axis LimitY- LED 3 LED 1 Illuminates when the X Axis Endstop is sending a signal to the Controller LED 3 Illuminates when the Y Axis Endstop is sending a signal to the Controller
The diagnostics screen will show you that the controller is receiving the signal when you test the endstop by pressing on the Lever Arm. The corresponding box should turn red when testing the endstop. To get to the diagnostics screen, press the MENU button, then scroll down and press the ENTER button when on the selection for Diagnostics.
Neither Endstop Pressed X and Y Axis Endstop Pressed
The Endstop should be adjusted so that the mechanical gap is not closed between the Gantry/Head and the physical barriers that they will hit if they over travel. If the switch position needs adjustment, see the section below about adjustment. If the mechanical gap is closing while homing or under normal operation, the driver will fault out and will require being power cycled to clear the fault.X Axis
When the laser head travels to the left to home, there should be a gap between the the Laser Head Trolley plate and the Y Axis Trolley plate.
Gap is Closed - Will Cause Fault Gap Remains Open - Endstop Should Trigger OK Gap between laser head trolley plate and Y axis left trolley plate closed. Gap between laser head trolley plate and Y axis left trolley plate remains open with a properly adjusted and functioning EndstopY Axis
When the gantry travels to the back of the machine to make the Endstop, there should be a gap between the belt tension block and the bearing housing.
Gap is Closed - Will Cause Fault Gap Remains Open - Endstop Should Trigger OK Belt Tension block hitting the gantry support bar bearing housing. Back right corner of machine. Gap between gantry Y axis belt tensions and bearing support housing remains open with a properly adjusted and functioning Endstop
If you suspect the head or gantry is reaching the hard travel limit before making the endstop, then the switch should be moved away from the hard end of travel (For X axis that is to the right, for the Y axis that is to the left which is towards the front of the machine. Pease see the section down below on how to adjust.
X Axis Adjustment Y Axis Adjustment
While adjusting, it may be nice to be able to manually move the axis in question by hand so that you can make the trigger arm activate the lever arm and check the mechanical gaps. To be able to do this, you can de-energize the corresponding driver by removing the 36V power to the driver. While de-energized, you can slowly move the laser head or gantry bar by hand to make the endstop Click. Drivers are located on the right hand side of the machine in the lower blue door area.Power should be off to the machine before plugging the driver back in. The axis will need to re-home after being powered back up.
In general, the drivers are on the right hand side of the machine.
Nova Series Internal Control Panel (Nova 24 shown, each size machine will vary but the general locations are the same)
CL1 Driver Energized CL1 Driver De-Energized For the older HBS drivers, they may be mounted Vertical or horizontal.
Vertical Mounted HBS Driver Horizontal Mounted HBS Driver Remove the 5 pin connector shown to De-Energize Remove the 5 pin connector shown to De-Energize
Tools Needed:1.5mm Allen WrenchSpare Endstop
Step 1: Remove the Wires from the Endstop Step 2: Remove the Mounting Bolts Re-Install in reverse. Make sure the arm is pointed in the correct direction.
X-Axis Endstop Incorrect Lever Arm Direction X-Axis Endstop Correct Lever Arm Direction
Y-Axis Endstop Incorrect Lever Arm Direction Y-Axis Endstop Correct Lever Arm Direction After replacing, go back and check the function and adjust as needed using the techniques listed above in this article
Use this adjustment to change the mechanical gap so that the axis does not fault out for closing the gap and clunking.Tools Needed:2mm Allen WrenchUse the 2mm wrench to loosen the bolts to the adjustable mounting bracket. Slide the adjustable mounting bracket with the sensor left or right as needed and then tighten the bolts.
If the endstops check out that they signal the controller while being lightly pressed manually, it may just be that the trigger arm for the endstop is not making the lever arm on the endstop and needs adjustment. You will need a 2mm Allen key. Power off the machine and manually move the axis to the endstop position and adjust the arm so that it makes contact with the switch properly. Listen for the click from the endstop as you adjust. The Trigger arm only controls how hard the lever on the endstop switch is pressed. The arm should be adjusted so that the Lever on the switch is pressed and you hear the Click while the roller on the lever is on the curved part of the Trigger Arm.Trigger Arm Mounting BoltThe lever arm is held on with a single bolt. Locations are show below.
X Axis On Laser Head Y Axis - Near X axis Motor On the left side at the laser head. Right hand side between Gantry Support rail and Drag ChainX Axis
Incorrect Correct The gantry is too far to the left and the trigger arm is too far to make the switch signal to the controller. The gantry is positioned correctly and the switch is made even before getting to the flat spot of the trigger arm.Y Axis
Incorrect Correct The gantry is too far back and the trigger arm is too high to make the switch signal to the controller. The gantry is positioned correctly and the switch is made even before getting to the flat spot of the trigger arm.
If after checking the endstops you have still not found and issue and you think that you have a driver, motor issue, let's perform this test and email the results to Support@thunderlaserusa.com. A short video or a very detailed, exact play by play of what happens should be provided.1. Power off your machine2. Manually move the laser head half way to the right (X direction) and the gantry(Y direction) ~10" towards the front of the machine. There will be some resistance, move slowly.3. Power Up the machine and observe the action of both the X and Y Axes4. After homing is complete, try to jog the X and Y Axis.If the X and Y axis both move, Congratulations, you fixed it. If not then answer theses questions:Did the X Axis Laser head move left? Did you hear a "clunk" when it reaches it's end of travel? Are there 7 red flashes on the X Axis Driver? If so, check and adjust the X axis endstop again
Did the Gantry move towards the back of the machine? Did you hear a "clunk" when it reaches it's end of travel? Are there 7 red flashes on the Y Axis Driver? If so, check and adjust the Y axis endstop againDid the laser move very slowly to the right or towards the front? The switch is not releasing, likely broken so it should be replaced.Did an axis not move at all? Check for 7 red flashes. You may have a driver, motor or cabling issue. Email Support@thunderlaserusa.com with what you have found.If you do not think it is the endstop and may be the Direction Pin wiring, please see the article listed in the additional resources about Checking the Direction wire for each axis.
Current Endstop
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Legacy Endstop
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Currently used as the Z limit switch but was also used as the X and Y
endstops as well. (Link Here)
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